General Meeting/Minutes/2016-11-03

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  • Attendance: 12
  • Lead by Phil Odence
  • Minutes of Sept meeting approved (Oct meeting was cancelled due to LinuxCon Europe)


Special Guest - Lei Mao Hui, Fujitsu

  • Lei
    • Working for Fujitu
    • Developing on house Distro
    • Spoke at ALS and Linux Conference about experience with SPDXX
  • Reason Fujitsu needs SPDX
    • Want an SPDX file for all their packages
    • Customers ofter require license info
    • Released under GPL3, but includes software under other license as well. Many!
      • MIT, BSD, GPL2, etc.
    • SPDX is good for this purpose
    • So they added into production Development
  • Yocto SPDX
    • Lucky for them that Yocto supports SPDX
    • But the activity on Yocto SPDX has been slow
    • Found some issues when using
      • Only supports SPDX 1.1
      • Doesn’t do a great job even with that
      • Is complex to use; takes a long time
      • May introduce license conflicts
    • In the end you can download the SPDX
  • Fujitsu’s contributions to Yocto SPDX
    • So they did some work to improve:
      • Created a patch to upgrade to SPDX 1.2
        • Unfortunately was never accepted into Yocto
    • Would like to upgrade to SPDX 2.0
    • And to improve performance
    • Has been working on some of the SPDX open source tools
      • including DoSocks developed by UNO
    • Lei has been continuing to submit improvements to Yocto
      • Improved performance
    • Currently discussing more improvements with Yocto
    • Will be continuing to improve and to upgrade to SPDX 2.1
  • Question
    • Has yocto been receptive?
      • Yocto has not been active or focused on SPDX.
      • Some people have been interested
      • Not sure why they are not interested
    • Kate will help and follow up

Tech Team Report - Kate/Gary

  • Spec
    • SPDX 2.1 is now released and official
      • Starting to focus on use cases and tooling
      • last call was a joint call with the Legal Team
        • Templetazation focus
        • Agreed on interfaces between teams
  • Tooling
    • Incorporated results from the bake off
      • Overall, everyone at the bake off got good feedback, leading to improvement of all tools
    • XML Format
      • Legal Team has been working on new format for license templates
      • Makes it easier for multiple contributors
      • Working now on making it consumable for external tools
      • Really good progress
        • Should have draft standards in the next month or two.


Legal Team Report - Jilayne/Paul

  • Joint Call with Tech Team
    • Worked on syncing tag names to be consistent with spec
    • Went really well
  • License List
    • Business as usual with new licenses
    • More license requests for licenses in other languages
    • Probably need to have a discussion about how to handle consistently


Outreach Team Report - Jack

  • Website
    • New site is up
    • Jack’s in process of posting new stuff
  • Next agenda
    • Working on new docs, templates, etc
      • Mostly to help explain aspects of how to use
      • Trying to assemble list of topics and then prioritize
      • Very open to ideas


Cross Functional Topics - Phil

  • Future topic - Will be a discussion of license in different languages
    • Legal Team will come forward with a strawman. A few months out.
  • Guest stars
    • Always looking for more


Attendees

  • Phil Odence, Black Duck
  • Lei Mao Hui, Fujitsu
  • Kate Stewart, Linux Foundation
  • Jilayne Lovejoy, ARM
  • Yev Bronshteyn, Black Duck
  • Scott Sterling, Palamida
  • Paul Madick, Dimension Data
  • Gary O’Neill, SourceAuditor
  • Tarek Jomaa, ARM
  • Mark Gisi, Wind River
  • Jack Manbeck, TI
  • Alexios Zavras, Intel