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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Minutes 4/19/2011</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Attendees:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Nicholas Loke</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Kirsten Newcomer</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Gary O’Neall</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Peter Williams</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Kate Stewart</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Agenda:</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Definitions doc – review Kirsten’s emails on consistent terminology</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Resolve differences in spec and html – review email thread on consistency</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Discuss proposals on verification code algorithms – review email thread from Marshal</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Review of the terms “Unknown”, “Undetermined”, and “None”:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;">Discussion of Undetermined/NotSpecified/NotAnalyzed terminology proposal. Outcome: recommendations made to revise proposal to reflect 4 use cases where license/copyright/url cannot be specified:&nbsp;</span></span></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">1) analyzed and data is insufficient to draw a conclusion&nbsp;</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">2) analyzed, and conclusion is Not Licensed&nbsp;</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">3) analyzed, and no data found&nbsp;</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">4) not analyzed&nbsp;</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Revised proposal sent out to list on 04/19</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Add “NONE” category for concluded license</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Change “NOTSPECIFIED” to “NONESEEN”</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;">Discussion of cases where no info is available need to be captured affirmatively in RDF license valuesor whether empty value is sufficient</span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;">Conclusion: &nbsp;should be affirmative; provide values that specifically address this use case</span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;">Discussion of how best to handle special terms: as literals/constants or try to "shoe horn" into license registry</span></span></span></p><ul type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;">Noted that these terms can be applied to copyright and URL data, not just license data</span></span></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Proposal: use URI that points to definition page on </span><a href="http://spdx.org/"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #0000ff; font-size: small;">spdx.org</span></a><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"> but NOT license page</span></span></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2; mso-margin-top-alt: auto; mso-margin-bottom-alt: auto;"><span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;">All will require special case treatment</span></span></span></li></ul><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Review differences between pdf doc and html rdf spec:</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3; mso-add-space: auto;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">For licenses, change the application to match rdf html spec on the “NONE” (etc.) being spdx/rdf/terms URI’s.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Peter to update vocabulary with new terms.</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3; mso-add-space: auto;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;">Spdx:License class – <span style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman';">ok as is for beta; revisit after beta</span></span></span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3; mso-add-space: auto;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">CreatorInfo cardinality – go with the pdf cardinality for now and revisit after Beta start</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3; mso-add-space: auto;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Cardinality of licenseInfoFromFile is 1 .. n</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3; mso-add-space: auto;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Cardinality licenseConcluded, … cardinality 1 – if multiple licenses, represented as a conjunctive or disjunctive set</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3; mso-add-space: auto;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Cardinality of licenseInfoInFile is 1..n (semantics similar licenseInfoFromFiles)</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3; mso-add-space: auto;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Describe which properties of DOAP are used in both the pdf and html (name and homepage)</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.25in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3; mso-add-space: auto;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Agreed to change licenseID -&gt; licenseId in pdf, html, and app</span></p>
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== Attendees ==
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* Nicholas Loke
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* Kirsten Newcomer
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* Gary O’Neall
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* Peter Williams
 +
* Kate Stewart
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== Agenda ==
 +
 
 +
* Definitions doc – review Kirsten’s emails on consistent terminology
 +
* Resolve differences in spec and html – review email thread on consistency
 +
* Discuss proposals on verification code algorithms – review email thread from Marshal
 +
 
 +
Review of the terms “Unknown”, “Undetermined”, and “None”:
 +
 
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Discussion of Undetermined/NotSpecified/NotAnalyzed terminology proposal. Outcome: recommendations made to revise proposal to reflect 4 use cases where license/copyright/url cannot be specified:
 +
 
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* 1) analyzed and data is insufficient to draw a conclusion
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* 2) analyzed, and conclusion is Not Licensed
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* 3) analyzed, and no data found
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* 4) not analyzed
 +
* Revised proposal sent out to list on 04/19
 +
* Add “NONE” category for concluded license
 +
* Change “NOTSPECIFIED” to “NONESEEN”
 +
 
 +
Discussion of cases where no info is available need to be captured affirmatively in RDF license valuesor whether empty value is sufficient
 +
 
 +
* Conclusion: should be affirmative; provide values that specifically address this use case
 +
 
 +
Discussion of how best to handle special terms: as literals/constants or try to "shoe horn" into license registry
 +
 
 +
* Noted that these terms can be applied to copyright and URL data, not just license data
 +
* Proposal: use URI that points to definition page on [http://spdx.org/ spdx.org] but NOT license page
 +
* All will require special case treatment
 +
 
 +
Review differences between pdf doc and html rdf spec:
 +
 
 +
* For licenses, change the application to match rdf html spec on the “NONE” (etc.) being spdx/rdf/terms URI’s. Peter to update vocabulary with new terms.
 +
* Spdx:License class – ok as is for beta; revisit after beta
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* CreatorInfo cardinality – go with the pdf cardinality for now and revisit after Beta start
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* Cardinality of licenseInfoFromFile is 1 .. n
 +
* Cardinality licenseConcluded, … cardinality 1 – if multiple licenses, represented as a conjunctive or disjunctive set
 +
* Cardinality of licenseInfoInFile is 1..n (semantics similar licenseInfoFromFiles)
 +
* Describe which properties of DOAP are used in both the pdf and html (name and homepage)
 +
* Agreed to change licenseID → licenseId in pdf, html, and app
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[[Category:Minutes]]

Latest revision as of 13:54, 6 March 2013

Attendees

  • Nicholas Loke
  • Kirsten Newcomer
  • Gary O’Neall
  • Peter Williams
  • Kate Stewart

Agenda

  • Definitions doc – review Kirsten’s emails on consistent terminology
  • Resolve differences in spec and html – review email thread on consistency
  • Discuss proposals on verification code algorithms – review email thread from Marshal

Review of the terms “Unknown”, “Undetermined”, and “None”:

Discussion of Undetermined/NotSpecified/NotAnalyzed terminology proposal. Outcome: recommendations made to revise proposal to reflect 4 use cases where license/copyright/url cannot be specified:

  • 1) analyzed and data is insufficient to draw a conclusion
  • 2) analyzed, and conclusion is Not Licensed
  • 3) analyzed, and no data found
  • 4) not analyzed
  • Revised proposal sent out to list on 04/19
  • Add “NONE” category for concluded license
  • Change “NOTSPECIFIED” to “NONESEEN”

Discussion of cases where no info is available need to be captured affirmatively in RDF license valuesor whether empty value is sufficient

  • Conclusion: should be affirmative; provide values that specifically address this use case

Discussion of how best to handle special terms: as literals/constants or try to "shoe horn" into license registry

  • Noted that these terms can be applied to copyright and URL data, not just license data
  • Proposal: use URI that points to definition page on spdx.org but NOT license page
  • All will require special case treatment

Review differences between pdf doc and html rdf spec:

  • For licenses, change the application to match rdf html spec on the “NONE” (etc.) being spdx/rdf/terms URI’s. Peter to update vocabulary with new terms.
  • Spdx:License class – ok as is for beta; revisit after beta
  • CreatorInfo cardinality – go with the pdf cardinality for now and revisit after Beta start
  • Cardinality of licenseInfoFromFile is 1 .. n
  • Cardinality licenseConcluded, … cardinality 1 – if multiple licenses, represented as a conjunctive or disjunctive set
  • Cardinality of licenseInfoInFile is 1..n (semantics similar licenseInfoFromFiles)
  • Describe which properties of DOAP are used in both the pdf and html (name and homepage)
  • Agreed to change licenseID → licenseId in pdf, html, and app