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| − | <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Minutes 4/19/2011</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Attendees:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Nicholas Loke</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Kirsten Newcomer</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Gary O’Neall</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Peter Williams</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Kate Stewart</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Agenda:</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Definitions doc – review Kirsten’s emails on consistent terminology</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Resolve differences in spec and html – review email thread on consistency</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Discuss proposals on verification code algorithms – review email thread from Marshal</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Review of the terms “Unknown”, “Undetermined”, and “None”:</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Proposed “UNDETERMINED”, “NOTSPECIFIED”, “NOTANALYZED”</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Discussed if we need both “NOTANALYZED” and “UNDETERMINED”</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Add “NONE” category for concluded license</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l2 level1 lfo2;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Change “NOTSPECIFIED” to “NONESEEN”</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Review differences between pdf doc and html rdf spec:</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpFirst" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">For licenses, change the application to match rdf html spec on the “NONE” (etc.) being spdx/rdf/terms URI’s.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Peter to update vocabulary with new terms.</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Spdx:License class – would like to revisit after start of Beta</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">CreatorInfo cardinality – go with the pdf cardinality for now and revisit after Beta start</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Cardinality of licenseInfoFromFile is 1 .. n</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Cardinality licenseConcluded, … cardinality 1</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Cardinality of licenseInfoInFile is 1..n (semantics similar licenseInfoFromFiles)</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpMiddle" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Describe which properties of DOAP are used in both the pdf and html (name and homepage)</span></p><p class="MsoListParagraphCxSpLast" style="text-indent: -0.25in; margin: 0in 0in 0pt 0.5in; mso-list: l1 level1 lfo3;"><span style="font-family: Symbol; mso-fareast-font-family: Symbol; mso-bidi-font-family: Symbol;"><span style="mso-list: Ignore;"><span style="font-size: small;">·</span><span style="font: 7pt "Times New Roman";"> </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: small;">Agreed to change licenseID -> licenseId in pdf, html, and app</span></p>
| + | == Attendees == |
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| | + | * Nicholas Loke |
| | + | * Kirsten Newcomer |
| | + | * Gary O’Neall |
| | + | * Peter Williams |
| | + | * Kate Stewart |
| | + | |
| | + | == Agenda == |
| | + | |
| | + | * Definitions doc – review Kirsten’s emails on consistent terminology |
| | + | * Resolve differences in spec and html – review email thread on consistency |
| | + | * Discuss proposals on verification code algorithms – review email thread from Marshal |
| | + | |
| | + | Review of the terms “Unknown”, “Undetermined”, and “None”: |
| | + | |
| | + | Discussion of Undetermined/NotSpecified/NotAnalyzed terminology proposal. Outcome: recommendations made to revise proposal to reflect 4 use cases where license/copyright/url cannot be specified: |
| | + | |
| | + | * 1) analyzed and data is insufficient to draw a conclusion |
| | + | * 2) analyzed, and conclusion is Not Licensed |
| | + | * 3) analyzed, and no data found |
| | + | * 4) not analyzed |
| | + | * Revised proposal sent out to list on 04/19 |
| | + | * Add “NONE” category for concluded license |
| | + | * Change “NOTSPECIFIED” to “NONESEEN” |
| | + | |
| | + | Discussion of cases where no info is available need to be captured affirmatively in RDF license valuesor whether empty value is sufficient |
| | + | |
| | + | * Conclusion: should be affirmative; provide values that specifically address this use case |
| | + | |
| | + | Discussion of how best to handle special terms: as literals/constants or try to "shoe horn" into license registry |
| | + | |
| | + | * Noted that these terms can be applied to copyright and URL data, not just license data |
| | + | * Proposal: use URI that points to definition page on [http://spdx.org/ spdx.org] but NOT license page |
| | + | * All will require special case treatment |
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| | + | Review differences between pdf doc and html rdf spec: |
| | + | |
| | + | * For licenses, change the application to match rdf html spec on the “NONE” (etc.) being spdx/rdf/terms URI’s. Peter to update vocabulary with new terms. |
| | + | * Spdx:License class – ok as is for beta; revisit after beta |
| | + | * CreatorInfo cardinality – go with the pdf cardinality for now and revisit after Beta start |
| | + | * Cardinality of licenseInfoFromFile is 1 .. n |
| | + | * Cardinality licenseConcluded, … cardinality 1 – if multiple licenses, represented as a conjunctive or disjunctive set |
| | + | * Cardinality of licenseInfoInFile is 1..n (semantics similar licenseInfoFromFiles) |
| | + | * Describe which properties of DOAP are used in both the pdf and html (name and homepage) |
| | + | * Agreed to change licenseID → licenseId in pdf, html, and app |
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Discussion of Undetermined/NotSpecified/NotAnalyzed terminology proposal. Outcome: recommendations made to revise proposal to reflect 4 use cases where license/copyright/url cannot be specified:
Discussion of cases where no info is available need to be captured affirmatively in RDF license valuesor whether empty value is sufficient
Discussion of how best to handle special terms: as literals/constants or try to "shoe horn" into license registry
