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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">Attendees:</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">Bill Schinelle</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">Gary O'Neall</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">Peter Williams</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">Kate Stewart</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">Next week - move time to 4:00PM Eastern</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">- Kate's grammar for the 'tag-value' format / DEB-5</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">- Gary's slides for tools to be made available</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">- recap / status of inclusion of new license fields</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">- Proposal process</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">Grammar Tag-Value / DEB-5</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span>- Is there a difference between the grammar embedded and the proposed grammar?</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>- Similar.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span>Purpose of Kate's proposal is to resolve ambiguities.</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>- Difference in syntax of the grammar - DEB-5 compatibility would require a different grammar </span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">representation</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>- Concern about forward compatibility - ability of a version X parser to understand version X+N documents</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>- There is a goal to be compatible with the DEB-5 which would lead more to the DEB-5 based grammar</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>- Need a way to map between the RDF and tag value and between tag value and RDF</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">Gary's slides for tools to be made available</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp;</span><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>- Can the pretty printer output tag-value</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 2;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>- Concern about not having a formal parser for the tag-value - could lead to bugs if hand-coded emitter for the tag-value</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 2;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>- Gary agreed to prototype a tag-value emitter</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>- Gary will ping Kate for the current Spreadsheet format</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>- For contribution/feedback switch from emailing spdx.org to use bugzilla</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>- Mention that in the spec there will be a grammar and an RDF OWL document</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">&nbsp;</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: small;">recap / status of inclusion of new license fields</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>- An asserted license field seems to have achieved consensus</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>- Proposal to split the license field into asserted license, "detected" or "seen" license, and a comment field</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="mso-tab-count: 1;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>- Will continue the proposal process on the spdx-tech mailing list and in bugzilla</span></span></p>
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== Attendees ==
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* Bill Schinelle
 +
* Gary O'Neall
 +
* Peter Williams
 +
* Kate Stewart
 +
 
 +
Next week - move time to 4:00PM Eastern
 +
 
 +
== Agenda ==
 +
 
 +
* Kate's grammar for the 'tag-value' format / DEB-5
 +
* Gary's slides for tools to be made available
 +
* recap / status of inclusion of new license fields
 +
* Proposal process
 +
 
 +
== Grammar Tag-Value / DEB-5 ==
 +
 
 +
* Is there a difference between the grammar embedded and the proposed grammar?
 +
* Similar. Purpose of Kate's proposal is to resolve ambiguities.
 +
* Difference in syntax of the grammar
 +
* DEB-5 compatibility would require a different grammar
 +
 
 +
== representation ==
 +
 
 +
* Concern about forward compatibility - ability of a version X parser to understand version X+N documents
 +
* There is a goal to be compatible with the DEB-5 which would lead more to the DEB-5 based grammar
 +
* Need a way to map between the RDF and tag value and between tag value and RDF
 +
 
 +
== Gary's slides for tools to be made available ==
 +
 
 +
* Can the pretty printer output tag-value
 +
* Concern about not having a formal parser for the tag-value - could lead to bugs if hand-coded emitter for the tag-value
 +
* Gary agreed to prototype a tag-value emitter
 +
* Gary will ping Kate for the current Spreadsheet format
 +
* For contribution/feedback switch from emailing spdx.org to use bugzilla
 +
* Mention that in the spec there will be a grammar and an RDF OWL document
 +
 
 +
== recap / status of inclusion of new license fields ==
 +
 
 +
* An asserted license field seems to have achieved consensus
 +
* Proposal to split the license field into asserted license, "detected" or "seen" license, and a comment field
 +
* Will continue the proposal process on the spdx-tech mailing list and in bugzilla
 +
 
 +
[[Category:Technical|Minutes]]
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[[Category:Minutes]]

Latest revision as of 12:56, 6 March 2013

Attendees

  • Bill Schinelle
  • Gary O'Neall
  • Peter Williams
  • Kate Stewart

Next week - move time to 4:00PM Eastern

Agenda

  • Kate's grammar for the 'tag-value' format / DEB-5
  • Gary's slides for tools to be made available
  • recap / status of inclusion of new license fields
  • Proposal process

Grammar Tag-Value / DEB-5

  • Is there a difference between the grammar embedded and the proposed grammar?
  • Similar. Purpose of Kate's proposal is to resolve ambiguities.
  • Difference in syntax of the grammar
  • DEB-5 compatibility would require a different grammar

representation

  • Concern about forward compatibility - ability of a version X parser to understand version X+N documents
  • There is a goal to be compatible with the DEB-5 which would lead more to the DEB-5 based grammar
  • Need a way to map between the RDF and tag value and between tag value and RDF

Gary's slides for tools to be made available

  • Can the pretty printer output tag-value
  • Concern about not having a formal parser for the tag-value - could lead to bugs if hand-coded emitter for the tag-value
  • Gary agreed to prototype a tag-value emitter
  • Gary will ping Kate for the current Spreadsheet format
  • For contribution/feedback switch from emailing spdx.org to use bugzilla
  • Mention that in the spec there will be a grammar and an RDF OWL document

recap / status of inclusion of new license fields

  • An asserted license field seems to have achieved consensus
  • Proposal to split the license field into asserted license, "detected" or "seen" license, and a comment field
  • Will continue the proposal process on the spdx-tech mailing list and in bugzilla