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* Philippe O,  recommended waiting PRs to be merged.
 
* Philippe O,  recommended waiting PRs to be merged.
 
* PRs not merged yet.   
 
* PRs not merged yet.   
* Next steps:  96 & 98.  Gary to work with Philippe to get unblocked
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* Next steps:  96 & 98.  Gary to work with Philippe to get unblocked  
 
* Recommend to tart working now.
 
* Recommend to tart working now.
* Proposed a timeline for work.  JSON support already done (in PR 96),
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* Proposed a timeline for work.  JSON support already done (in PR 96), want to suggest a change in timeline.    XML first.  All agree.
want to suggest a change in timeline.    XML first.  All agree.
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* Gary suggests reserving time for https://github.com/spdx/spdx-spec/issues/96
 
* Gary suggests reserving time for https://github.com/spdx/spdx-spec/issues/96
 
* Updates on Gitter channel  https://gitter.im/spdx-org/Lobby
 
* Updates on Gitter channel  https://gitter.im/spdx-org/Lobby
  
 
==Package Definition==
 
==Package Definition==
* Gary remembers as distributable unit.  Collection of things that can
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* Gary remembers as distributable unit.  Collection of things that can be copyrighted.    tar ball, commit record,  directory, ..  more of a collection with 2.0.    Include subdirectory as its own package.
be copyrighted.    tar ball, commit record,  directory, ..  more of a
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collection with 2.0.    Include subdirectory as its own package.
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* Kate notes that  - “Common grouping”
 
* Kate notes that  - “Common grouping”
 
* Nish likes idea of common distribution - lowest common denominator is that they are sent somewhere.
 
* Nish likes idea of common distribution - lowest common denominator is that they are sent somewhere.
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== Semi-colon proposal==
 
== Semi-colon proposal==
 
* Mark Gisi’s proposal of “;” operator. https://github.com/spdx/spdx-spec/issues/123 https://github.com/spdx/spdx-spec/issues/124
 
* Mark Gisi’s proposal of “;” operator. https://github.com/spdx/spdx-spec/issues/123 https://github.com/spdx/spdx-spec/issues/124
* Gary - AND used to describe “ALL” the license that apply to a distinct
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* Gary - AND used to describe “ALL” the license that apply to a distinct package.  If more than 1 separate work,  it becomes confusing.
package.  If more than 1 separate work,  it becomes confusing.
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* Adding another operator similar to “AND”,  parts of distribution. Don’t want to imply that they apply to the same package.
* Adding another operator similar to “AND”,  parts of distribution.
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Don’t want to imply that they apply to the same package.
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* Nisha would like to see this,  defining execution environments.
 
* Nisha would like to see this,  defining execution environments.
* Steve not sure what “;” is meant to communicated,  2 or more both
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* Steve not sure what “;” is meant to communicated,  2 or more both apply to a unit of software.    CC-BY-4.0 for documentation,  code under Apache. So package as a whole would be Apache-2.0 AND CC-BY-4.0.
apply to a unit of software.    CC-BY-4.0 for documentation,  code
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under Apache. So package as a whole would be Apache-2.0 AND CC-BY-4.0.
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* Suggest subdivide and refers to subpackages within a packages.
 
* Suggest subdivide and refers to subpackages within a packages.
 
* “OR”  is a choice between licenses.
 
* “OR”  is a choice between licenses.
* What is meant to be communicated by the “;” operator.    Want to say
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* What is meant to be communicated by the “;” operator.    Want to say it applies, but not when it conflicts.    At package level is
it applies, but not when it conflicts.    At package level is
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LICENSE_INFORMATION_FOUND_IN_FILES.
 
LICENSE_INFORMATION_FOUND_IN_FILES.
 
* Steve - concern people will use “;”  when AND is really appropriate.
 
* Steve - concern people will use “;”  when AND is really appropriate.
 
* Want to reach out to legal team to get their perspective.
 
* Want to reach out to legal team to get their perspective.
 
 
 
* We should either decide to support, or get rid of WIKI page that is confusing people.
 
* We should either decide to support, or get rid of WIKI page that is confusing people.
* Nisha:  AND, OR, and NOT used for licenses is sufficient.  Semantic
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* Nisha:  AND, OR, and NOT used for licenses is sufficient.  Semantic wise,  AND and OR are ok.
wise,  AND and OR are ok.
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* Gary:  Kick this over to the legal team.
 
* Gary:  Kick this over to the legal team.
 
==JSON Format Examples==
 
==JSON Format Examples==
 
* Steve:  Examples - pull request #120 in SPDX Spec.  Call at end of April.
 
* Steve:  Examples - pull request #120 in SPDX Spec.  Call at end of April.
* Iterate what JSON format looks like.    Branch for new FORMATs,
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* Iterate what JSON format looks like.    Branch for new FORMATs, sample XML and YAML documents.  Iterate and comment to flesh it out on branch.  JSON - gets towards a workable example.  Get more official.
sample XML and YAML documents.  Iterate and comment to flesh it out
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on branch.  JSON - gets towards a workable example.  Get more
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official.
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[[Category:Technical|Minutes]]
 
[[Category:Technical|Minutes]]
 
[[Category:Minutes]]
 
[[Category:Minutes]]

Latest revision as of 18:03, 4 June 2019

May 28, 2019

Attendees

  • Kate Stewart
  • Gary O’Neall
  • Xavier Figueroa
  • Krys Nuvadga
  • Mathew Crawford
  • Nisha Kumar
  • Steve Wilson
  • Natish
  • Umang

GSoC

  • Philippe O, recommended waiting PRs to be merged.
  • PRs not merged yet.
  • Next steps: 96 & 98. Gary to work with Philippe to get unblocked
  • Recommend to tart working now.
  • Proposed a timeline for work. JSON support already done (in PR 96), want to suggest a change in timeline. XML first. All agree.
  • Gary suggests reserving time for https://github.com/spdx/spdx-spec/issues/96
  • Updates on Gitter channel https://gitter.im/spdx-org/Lobby

Package Definition

  • Gary remembers as distributable unit. Collection of things that can be copyrighted. tar ball, commit record, directory, .. more of a collection with 2.0. Include subdirectory as its own package.
  • Kate notes that - “Common grouping”
  • Nish likes idea of common distribution - lowest common denominator is that they are sent somewhere.
  • Steve willing to give it a try - simple as possible, follow with examples.

Semi-colon proposal

  • Mark Gisi’s proposal of “;” operator. https://github.com/spdx/spdx-spec/issues/123 https://github.com/spdx/spdx-spec/issues/124
  • Gary - AND used to describe “ALL” the license that apply to a distinct package. If more than 1 separate work, it becomes confusing.
  • Adding another operator similar to “AND”, parts of distribution. Don’t want to imply that they apply to the same package.
  • Nisha would like to see this, defining execution environments.
  • Steve not sure what “;” is meant to communicated, 2 or more both apply to a unit of software. CC-BY-4.0 for documentation, code under Apache. So package as a whole would be Apache-2.0 AND CC-BY-4.0.
  • Suggest subdivide and refers to subpackages within a packages.
  • “OR” is a choice between licenses.
  • What is meant to be communicated by the “;” operator. Want to say it applies, but not when it conflicts. At package level is

LICENSE_INFORMATION_FOUND_IN_FILES.

  • Steve - concern people will use “;” when AND is really appropriate.
  • Want to reach out to legal team to get their perspective.
  • We should either decide to support, or get rid of WIKI page that is confusing people.
  • Nisha: AND, OR, and NOT used for licenses is sufficient. Semantic wise, AND and OR are ok.
  • Gary: Kick this over to the legal team.

JSON Format Examples

  • Steve: Examples - pull request #120 in SPDX Spec. Call at end of April.
  • Iterate what JSON format looks like. Branch for new FORMATs, sample XML and YAML documents. Iterate and comment to flesh it out on branch. JSON - gets towards a workable example. Get more official.