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General Meeting/Minutes/2019-01-03

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  • Attendance: 15
  • Lead by Phil Odence
  • Minutes of Dec meeting approved

Guest Presentation, JC Herz

  • Background
  • Years of working with companies and DOD in open source
  • The Issues/concerns
  • License issues- SPDX handles well
  • Concerns about security close on the heels
  • Compliance is an additional step- Jumping through the hoops to document
  • SEVA Software Evidence Archive
  • Elements
    • Serves S-BOM function
    • Augments with content that needs to travel with software
    • Therefore allowing compliance work to be automated
    • Freeing up valuable resources to do what they are supposed to do
    • Can apply to a single component or a full application, so SEVA doesn’t distinguish
  • Format Issue
    • Customers required XML, beyond SEVA JSON
    • To be useable by a highly secure facility, data has to be hardened for which XML is better suited
    • Can be constrained and format can be verified (and extended)
  • SPDX and SEVA Overlap
  • License Info
    • For the most part SPDX handles beautifully
    • Government also needs to distinguish government open source
    • A little more information about state of software (e.g. pre-release)
  • Security extra needs
    • Some concern about spurious vulnerabilities
    • Answer is to extend a BoM to include patch info, etc
    • End of life indicator
    • They take SPDX familiar thing and provide some extensibility
  • How to name “supplier”?
    • Working with Kate
    • OSS organization for example
    • A bank’s black list
  • Vulnerabilities
    • Key requirement for vulnerabilities info in SBOM, although just a link might make more sense
    • Reason is “audit” function. What you knew when. So needs a time stamp.
    • Bureaucratic are not going to change in favor of something that makes more sense for developers
    • Concerns that this will get worse over time
  • Other Side - Logistics
  • Moving and shipping of SW/chain of custody- Where did it come from exactly
    • Not something OSS community has had to worry about
    • Bad mirror issue, for example.
  • Signed? Timestamp? Delivery date and time for software.
    • Something like FedEx analogy
  • Package URL helps identify
  • Q&A
  • What can SPDX group do?
    • JC thinks that they should open source SEVA
    • Could contribute to LinuxF perhaps
    • Understand and need to balance needs of OSS consumers and dev communities
    • Don’t want to burden them
    • Automate
    • Challenge- How to distinguish enterprise quality OSS vs. pet projects

Tech Team Report - Kate/Gary

  • Tools
  • Starting to plan for GSoC submissions with Gary/Kate
  • Steve has been trained on releasing License list, so Gary now has backup
  • Steve has been working on some new tools for summarizing the SPDX_license_ids based on a new SPDX go library - currently its just supporting TV, but he hopes to add in the other formats
  • Specification
  • Gary & James have been working through SeVA XML and working through how it can be added.
  • License List
  • V3.4 out before Christmas
    • Big success to not have to scramble through holidays
    • Release notes in the GitHub repo
  • Instructions for requesting now live in Repo as well
    • Leverage GSOC work has been automated.
  • New frontier- Getting open hardware licenses on list
    • Expanding definition of what goes on the list

Outreach Team Report

  • None this month

Attendees

  • Phil Odence, Black Duck/Synopsys
  • Kate Stewart, Linux Foundation
  • Jilayne Lovejoy
  • Steve Winslow, LF
  • Alexios Zavras, Intel
  • Luis Villa, Tidelift
  • Jams Neushal, Neushul Solutions
  • Matthew Crawford, ARM
  • Kevin Nelson, Optim Tech UHG
  • Dennis Clark, NexB
  • Thomas Steenbergen, HERE
  • Bradlee Edmondson, Harvard
  • Gary O’Neall, SourceAuditor
  • Nicholas Toussaint, Orange
  • JC Herz, Ionchannel

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