https://wiki.spdx.org/index.php?title=Legal_Team/Minutes/2012-02-08&feed=atom&action=historyLegal Team/Minutes/2012-02-08 - Revision history2024-03-29T04:48:11ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.23.13https://wiki.spdx.org/index.php?title=Legal_Team/Minutes/2012-02-08&diff=1387&oldid=prevMartinMichlmayr: Convert to MediaWiki syntax2013-03-05T18:36:36Z<p>Convert to MediaWiki syntax</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><p><strong>SPDX Legal Workstream Meeting Minutes - 8 February 2012</strong></p><p>attending:</p><ul><li></del>Paul Madick,<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</li><li></del>Mark Gisi, WindRiver<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>Peter Williams, OpenLogic<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>Jilayne Lovejoy, OpenLogic<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>Esteban <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</del>Rockett, Motorola<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>Tom Incorvia, MicroFocus<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>Michael Herzog, NexB<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>Kate Stewart, Canonical<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li></ul><p><strong>AGENDA</strong>:</p><p><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"text-decoration: underline;">i - </del>License List Match Guidelines - pickup at #7 Copyright Notice guideline<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:</span></p><p><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"text-decoration: underline;"><br /></span></del>see<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;http:</del>//<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">spdx.org/wiki/spdx-license-list-match-guidelines </del>for updated guidelines. No more Word document.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></p><ul><li></del>is the copyright notice "part" of the license?<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><ul><li></del>yes in the case of BSD and MIT, i.e. is BSD 3-clause shows up multiple times with different copyright notices, we want it to match to BSD 3-clause<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</li><ul><li></del>in this case, copytihgt notice not part of license in terms of matching<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>remove copyright notice from license text field in our license list and move it??<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li></ul><li></del>no in the case of Apache or GPL where there is a copyright notice for the license itself?<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>where someone leaves the &lt;copyright holder&gt; insertable text in the license - does that make it a "different" notice<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>if there is no copyright notice where there usually is one, is that a match?<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li></ul><li></del>can we simply say ignore copyright notice, include example,<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</li><ul><li></del>don't take out copyright notices in license text on license list<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>or different rules for different license? - hard for implementation<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>if a license has its own copyright notice (i.e. Apache 2.0) and its ignored would this be bad?<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li></ul><li>--&gt; </del>guideline for copyright notice, ignore, but then question is whether we then need to go through the entire license list and delineate where that begins and ends<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li></ul><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><ul><li></del>notice issue - the notice is not a license, in case of BSD, license is contained in the notice, but whereas GPL notice may be different forms and also may indicate "or later" or not - but still same GPL license (to discuss more in depth later)<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>does spec differentiate b/w notice and copyright holder well enough? <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</del>may need to be more specific about how we discuss copyright holders in spec<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><ul><li></del>what about when there are different copyright holders for different licenses within a file<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li></ul><li>--&gt; </del>these issues to be further discussed at next meeting (items #8 and #9 on license list match guidelines page)<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li></ul><p>&nbsp;</p><p><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"text-decoration: underline;">II - </del>License List format issue<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></p><p></del>on last business call the issue of several license text being too long for the character limit in Excel then resulting in that license text missing in the html pages was discussed and how to remedy this so that all info was in one place. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</del>Need to have a downloadable (spreadsheet) format for people who want to download the license list for their own purposes. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</del>Eventually we will transition to the html pages being the "original" and have some kind of tool to generate a downloadable file, but in the meantime, the spreadsheet is the "original" and the html files are created from that.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></p><p></del>Gary, Bill, and Jilayne had a call on Monday about various options. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</del>proposal to move the license text into separate text files named according to the short identifiers and then the spreadsheet would have a link to the text file. spreadsheet and text files would be one downloadable tar ball. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</p><p></del>Update and discussion of this issues at legal meeting:<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></p><ul><li></del>should the separate files be .txt files or the html files? if html files, kind of creates circular situation<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>to be discussed at general meeting tomorrow.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li></ul></del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">== Attendees ==</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>Paul Madick,</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>Kate Stewart, Canonical</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">=</ins>= License List Match Guidelines - pickup at #7 Copyright Notice guideline =<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">=</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>see <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[Legal_Team</ins>/<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">License_List</ins>/<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">License_Matching_Guidelines]] </ins>for updated guidelines. No more Word document.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>is the copyright notice "part" of the license?</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">** </ins>yes in the case of BSD and MIT, i.e. is BSD 3-clause shows up multiple times with different copyright notices, we want it to match to BSD 3-clause</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">*** </ins>remove copyright notice from license text field in our license list and move it??</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">** </ins>no in the case of Apache or GPL where there is a copyright notice for the license itself?</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">** </ins>where someone leaves the &lt;copyright holder&gt; insertable text in the license - does that make it a "different" notice</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">** </ins>if there is no copyright notice where there usually is one, is that a match?</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>can we simply say ignore copyright notice, include example,</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>notice issue - the notice is not a license, in case of BSD, license is contained in the notice, but whereas GPL notice may be different forms and also may indicate "or later" or not - but still same GPL license (to discuss more in depth later)</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>on last business call the issue of several license text being too long for the character limit in Excel then resulting in that license text missing in the html pages was discussed and how to remedy this so that all info was in one place. Need to have a downloadable (spreadsheet) format for people who want to download the license list for their own purposes. Eventually we will transition to the html pages being the "original" and have some kind of tool to generate a downloadable file, but in the meantime, the spreadsheet is the "original" and the html files are created from that.</div></td></tr>
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</table>MartinMichlmayrhttps://wiki.spdx.org/index.php?title=Legal_Team/Minutes/2012-02-08&diff=1386&oldid=prevJlovejoy at 18:18, 8 February 20122012-02-08T18:18:17Z<p></p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div><p><strong>SPDX Legal Workstream Meeting Minutes - 8 February 2012</strong></p><p>attending:</p><ul><li>Paul Madick,&nbsp;</li><li>Mark Gisi, WindRiver</li><li>Peter Williams, OpenLogic</li><li>Jilayne Lovejoy, OpenLogic</li><li>Esteban &nbsp;Rockett, Motorola</li><li>Tom Incorvia, MicroFocus</li><li>Michael Herzog, NexB</li><li>Kate Stewart, Canonical</li></ul><p><strong>AGENDA</strong>:</p><p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">i - License List Match Guidelines - pickup at #7 Copyright Notice guideline:</span></p><p><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><br /></span>see&nbsp;http://spdx.org/wiki/spdx-license-list-match-guidelines for updated guidelines. No more Word document.</p><ul><li>is the copyright notice "part" of the license?</li><ul><li>yes in the case of BSD and MIT, i.e. is BSD 3-clause shows up multiple times with different copyright notices, we want it to match to BSD 3-clause&nbsp;</li><ul><li>in this case, copytihgt notice not part of license in terms of matching</li><li>remove copyright notice from license text field in our license list and move it??</li></ul><li>no in the case of Apache or GPL where there is a copyright notice for the license itself?</li><li>where someone leaves the &lt;copyright holder&gt; insertable text in the license - does that make it a "different" notice</li><li>if there is no copyright notice where there usually is one, is that a match?</li></ul><li>can we simply say ignore copyright notice, include example,&nbsp;</li><ul><li>don't take out copyright notices in license text on license list</li><li>or different rules for different license? - hard for implementation</li><li>if a license has its own copyright notice (i.e. Apache 2.0) and its ignored would this be bad?</li></ul><li>--&gt; guideline for copyright notice, ignore, but then question is whether we then need to go through the entire license list and delineate where that begins and ends</li></ul><p>&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><ul><li>notice issue - the notice is not a license, in case of BSD, license is contained in the notice, but whereas GPL notice may be different forms and also may indicate "or later" or not - but still same GPL license (to discuss more in depth later)</li><li>does spec differentiate b/w notice and copyright holder well enough? &nbsp;may need to be more specific about how we discuss copyright holders in spec</li><ul><li>what about when there are different copyright holders for different licenses within a file</li></ul><li>--&gt; these issues to be further discussed at next meeting (items #8 and #9 on license list match guidelines page)</li></ul><p>&nbsp;</p><p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">II - License List format issue</span></p><p>on last business call the issue of several license text being too long for the character limit in Excel then resulting in that license text missing in the html pages was discussed and how to remedy this so that all info was in one place. &nbsp;Need to have a downloadable (spreadsheet) format for people who want to download the license list for their own purposes. &nbsp;Eventually we will transition to the html pages being the "original" and have some kind of tool to generate a downloadable file, but in the meantime, the spreadsheet is the "original" and the html files are created from that.</p><p>Gary, Bill, and Jilayne had a call on Monday about various options. &nbsp;proposal to move the license text into separate text files named according to the short identifiers and then the spreadsheet would have a link to the text file. spreadsheet and text files would be one downloadable tar ball. &nbsp;</p><p>Update and discussion of this issues at legal meeting:</p><ul><li>should the separate files be .txt files or the html files? if html files, kind of creates circular situation</li><li>to be discussed at general meeting tomorrow.</li></ul></div>Jlovejoy