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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><p><strong>SPDX Legal Workstream Meeting Minutes - 25 January 2012</strong></p><p>In attendance:</p><ul><li></del>Jilayne Lovejoy, OpenLogic<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>Tom Incoriva, Microfocus<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>Mark Gisi, Windriver<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>Phil Odence, Black Duck<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>Peter Williams, OpenLogic<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>Mansour Ghomeshi, Motorola<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>Esteban Rockett, Motorola<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>Michael Herzog, NexB<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li></ul><p><strong>AGENDA</strong></p><p><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"text-decoration: underline;">I - </del>update on CC-0 Preamble<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></p><ul><li></del>changed "copyrightable material" to "copyrightable work" in second and third paragraphs.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</li></ul><p></del>ACTION ITEM: Jilayne to update this on SPDX wiki page with preamble<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></p><p><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"text-decoration: underline;">II - </del>Review draft License List Match Guidelines (templatizing)<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></p><p></del>went through guideline document by section<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">; &nbsp</del>;change focus from normalizing on guidelines - to just offering guidelines and let tools makers implement<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></p><p></del>White Space<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></p><ul><li></del>if one sentence moves to another paragraph, it would be treated the same<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">;&nbsp</del>; does this matter, can we find a use case where this would matter?<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</del>could treat paragraph break as different than other whitespace breaks<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>seems okay to treat all white space the same; leave as is in guidelines<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li></ul><p></del>Capitalization - okay as is<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></p><p></del>Puncuation - okay as is<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></p><p></del>Bullets and Numbering<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></p><ul><li></del>as to bullets/numbers, just say ignore these<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>this would require flagging this text within licenses that have references<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</li><li></del>can we ignore the bullet/number/letter, but not "lose" that info (so you still see it later), otherwise it would be unreadable - really internal details for tools anyway<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>can we just start here and see how it goes? <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</del>Licenses that have internal references are less likely to have changes with numbering anyway<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>start here, and modify later if needed<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li></ul><p></del>Varietal Word Spelling<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></p><ul><li></del>decision to re-word description re: British/American spelling to just equivalent spelling since geography is a non-issue<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>are there any words where there may be 3 different spelling? list only has two columns<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><ul><li></del>Can't think of any example, but would be same - not<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</li></ul><li></del>what about if a word is misspelled? <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</del>- slippery slope to try and deal with this; if misspelled consistently in license, then will just match on misspelling; <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</li><ul><li></del>Can watch to see if this comes up/examples<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li></ul></ul><p></del>Copyright Symbol<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></p><ul><li></del>okay as is - just say all three options are equivalent<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li></ul><p></del>Copyright notice<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></p><ul><li></del>copyright notice line guideline: <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</del>is the copyright notice at the top of BSD really part of the license?<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>License is something that should be fixed; where does license notice fall in this?<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>Copyright notice applies to file; but license is the actual text, not the notice (which may say you have to reproduce the copyright notice)<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>Should we then strip the copyright notice out altogether in our license list?<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>Copyright notice for license itself is distinct, so keep - but most cases it would not be part of license itself<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>How does this impact our license list - e.g. "GPL or later" where there isn't really an "or later" license, but is really just a notice<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li><li></del>Then raises question of how to deal with preambles and epilogue?<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></li></ul><p></del>→ next time pick up here with discussion and may tie into conversation re: headers<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></p><p></del>ACTION ITEM: update License List Match Guidelines and post on wiki page on spdx.org (current page posted is outdated)<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></p><p style="text-indent</del>: <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">-28px;"><span style="font-family</del>: <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Calibri;"><span style="font-size: 15px;"><br /></span></span></p></del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">== Attendees ==</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>are there any words where there may be 3 different spelling? list only has two columns</div></td></tr>
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</table>MartinMichlmayrhttps://wiki.spdx.org/index.php?title=Legal_Team/Minutes/2012-01-25&diff=1369&oldid=prevJlovejoy at 00:06, 27 January 20122012-01-27T00:06:10Z<p></p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div><p><strong>SPDX Legal Workstream Meeting Minutes - 25 January 2012</strong></p><p>In attendance:</p><ul><li>Jilayne Lovejoy, OpenLogic</li><li>Tom Incoriva, Microfocus</li><li>Mark Gisi, Windriver</li><li>Phil Odence, Black Duck</li><li>Peter Williams, OpenLogic</li><li>Mansour Ghomeshi, Motorola</li><li>Esteban Rockett, Motorola</li><li>Michael Herzog, NexB</li></ul><p><strong>AGENDA</strong></p><p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">I - update on CC-0 Preamble</span></p><ul><li>changed "copyrightable material" to "copyrightable work" in second and third paragraphs.&nbsp;</li></ul><p>ACTION ITEM: Jilayne to update this on SPDX wiki page with preamble</p><p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">II - Review draft License List Match Guidelines (templatizing)</span></p><p>went through guideline document by section; &nbsp;change focus from normalizing on guidelines - to just offering guidelines and let tools makers implement</p><p>White Space</p><ul><li>if one sentence moves to another paragraph, it would be treated the same;&nbsp; does this matter, can we find a use case where this would matter?&nbsp;could treat paragraph break as different than other whitespace breaks</li><li>seems okay to treat all white space the same; leave as is in guidelines</li></ul><p>Capitalization - okay as is</p><p>Puncuation - okay as is</p><p>Bullets and Numbering</p><ul><li>as to bullets/numbers, just say ignore these</li><li>this would require flagging this text within licenses that have references&nbsp;</li><li>can we ignore the bullet/number/letter, but not "lose" that info (so you still see it later), otherwise it would be unreadable - really internal details for tools anyway</li><li>can we just start here and see how it goes? &nbsp;Licenses that have internal references are less likely to have changes with numbering anyway</li><li>start here, and modify later if needed</li></ul><p>Varietal Word Spelling</p><ul><li>decision to re-word description re: British/American spelling to just equivalent spelling since geography is a non-issue</li><li>are there any words where there may be 3 different spelling? list only has two columns</li><ul><li>Can't think of any example, but would be same - not&nbsp;</li></ul><li>what about if a word is misspelled? &nbsp;- slippery slope to try and deal with this; if misspelled consistently in license, then will just match on misspelling; &nbsp;</li><ul><li>Can watch to see if this comes up/examples</li></ul></ul><p>Copyright Symbol</p><ul><li>okay as is - just say all three options are equivalent</li></ul><p>Copyright notice</p><ul><li>copyright notice line guideline: &nbsp;is the copyright notice at the top of BSD really part of the license?</li><li>License is something that should be fixed; where does license notice fall in this?</li><li>Copyright notice applies to file; but license is the actual text, not the notice (which may say you have to reproduce the copyright notice)</li><li>Should we then strip the copyright notice out altogether in our license list?</li><li>Copyright notice for license itself is distinct, so keep - but most cases it would not be part of license itself</li><li>How does this impact our license list - e.g. "GPL or later" where there isn't really an "or later" license, but is really just a notice</li><li>Then raises question of how to deal with preambles and epilogue?</li></ul><p>→ next time pick up here with discussion and may tie into conversation re: headers</p><p>ACTION ITEM: update License List Match Guidelines and post on wiki page on spdx.org (current page posted is outdated)</p><p style="text-indent: -28px;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"><span style="font-size: 15px;"><br /></span></span></p></div>Jlovejoy