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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><p><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Minutes 9/4/2012</span></p><p><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Attendees<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:</span></p><p><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Gary O’Neall<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">,&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Bill Schineller<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">,&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Kate Stewart<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">,&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Jack Manbeck<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, </del>Michael Herzog<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">,&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Ed Warnicke<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">,&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Peter Williams<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">,&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Kirsten Newcomer<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, </del>Marshall Clow<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Agenda<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:</span></p><ul><li><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Re-cap of Linux Con discussions<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Discussion of recent blog post expressing confusion about SPDX<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Ed Warnicke proposal / demo of 'Watermarking' <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</span></li></ul><div><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Re-cap of Linux Con discussions<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></div><div><ul><li><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Kate: 1.1 spec draft and rdf got in sync, releaseable<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Fossology intent to provide Agent to produce 1.1 SPDX announced<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Deferred modeling discussions while at Linux Con<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Ed W. socialized idea of 'Watermarking' approach<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li></ul><div><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><div><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Discussion sparked by recent blog post<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:</span></div><div><ul><li><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>http://www.murrayc.com/blog/permalink/2012/08/31/generating-spdx-files-with-licensecheck/<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Jack: idea for validation suite - future agenda item?<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Kate: need to update examples - volunteer to do 'time' package<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Kate: idea for "plug fest" at next Linux Collab summit - encourage those who support/produce SPDX to do so for same package and compare results?<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li></ul><div><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Watermarking Proposal / Demo (Ed Warnicke)<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></div><div><ul><li><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Source files and their compiled output are the "leaves" of hierarchies of copyrightable 'things', so can SPDX specify a watermarking approach to put licensing information<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>directly in source files?<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Reqts: Machine-readable, close to leaf, flows through hierarchy<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Demonstrated for the C language an spdx.h defining a macro SPDX_INFO. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</del>Including this header, then compiling results in an introspectable compiled output<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li></ul><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Reactions to demo<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:&nbsp;</span><br /><ul><li><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Peter - "ship it"? !<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Ed: our 'one chance' to get it right with upstream providers, don't rush it<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Michael: let's decouple the spec from its 'enabling technologies"<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Issues: concern about the SIZE compiling strings into object code adds to the distros.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp;</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"></del>Let's determine what's 'acceptable' size bloat (none!...) and think about other languages too<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li></ul></div></div><div><span style="font-family</del>: <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Calibri; font-size</del>: <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">medium;"><br /></span></div></div><div><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><p>&nbsp;</p></del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Attendees =<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">=</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>Kirsten Newcomer</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>Re-cap of Linux Con discussions</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>Discussion of recent blog post expressing confusion about SPDX</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">=</ins>= Re-cap of Linux Con discussions =<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">=</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>Kate: 1.1 spec draft and rdf got in sync, releaseable</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>Fossology intent to provide Agent to produce 1.1 SPDX announced</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>Deferred modeling discussions while at Linux Con</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Discussion sparked by recent blog post =<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">=</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>http://www.murrayc.com/blog/permalink/2012/08/31/generating-spdx-files-with-licensecheck/</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>Jack: idea for validation suite - future agenda item?</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>Kate: need to update examples - volunteer to do 'time' package</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">=</ins>= Watermarking Proposal / Demo (Ed Warnicke) =<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">=</ins></div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div> </div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>Source files and their compiled output are the "leaves" of hierarchies of copyrightable 'things', so can SPDX specify a watermarking approach to put licensing information directly in source files?</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>Reqts: Machine-readable, close to leaf, flows through hierarchy</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">=</ins>= Reactions to demo =<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">=</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>Peter - "ship it"? !</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>Ed: our 'one chance' to get it right with upstream providers, don't rush it</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>Michael: let's decouple the spec from its 'enabling technologies"</div></td></tr>
<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>Issues: concern about the SIZE compiling strings into object code adds to the distros.</div></td></tr>
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MartinMichlmayr
https://wiki.spdx.org/index.php?title=Technical_Team/Minutes/2012-09-04&diff=2163&oldid=prev
Bschineller at 15:00, 11 September 2012
2012-09-11T15:00:37Z
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<p><b>New page</b></p><div><p><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Minutes 9/4/2012</span></p><p><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Attendees:</span></p><p><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Gary O’Neall,&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Bill Schineller,&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Kate Stewart,&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Jack Manbeck, Michael Herzog,&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Ed Warnicke,&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Peter Williams,&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Kirsten Newcomer, Marshall Clow</span></p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Agenda:</span></p><ul><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Re-cap of Linux Con discussions</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Discussion of recent blog post expressing confusion about SPDX</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Ed Warnicke proposal / demo of 'Watermarking' &nbsp;</span></li></ul><div><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Re-cap of Linux Con discussions</span></div><div><ul><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Kate: 1.1 spec draft and rdf got in sync, releaseable</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Fossology intent to provide Agent to produce 1.1 SPDX announced</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Deferred modeling discussions while at Linux Con</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Ed W. socialized idea of 'Watermarking' approach</span></li></ul><div><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Discussion sparked by recent blog post:</span></div><div><ul><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">http://www.murrayc.com/blog/permalink/2012/08/31/generating-spdx-files-with-licensecheck/</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Jack: idea for validation suite - future agenda item?</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Kate: need to update examples - volunteer to do 'time' package</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Kate: idea for "plug fest" at next Linux Collab summit - encourage those who support/produce SPDX to do so for same package and compare results?</span></li></ul><div><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Watermarking Proposal / Demo (Ed Warnicke)</span></div><div><ul><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Source files and their compiled output are the "leaves" of hierarchies of copyrightable 'things', so can SPDX specify a watermarking approach to put licensing information&nbsp;</span><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">directly in source files?</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Reqts: Machine-readable, close to leaf, flows through hierarchy</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Demonstrated for the C language an spdx.h defining a macro SPDX_INFO. &nbsp;Including this header, then compiling results in an introspectable compiled output</span></li></ul><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Reactions to demo:&nbsp;</span><br /><ul><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Peter - "ship it"? !</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Ed: our 'one chance' to get it right with upstream providers, don't rush it</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Michael: let's decouple the spec from its 'enabling technologies"</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Issues: concern about the SIZE compiling strings into object code adds to the distros.&nbsp;</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;">Let's determine what's 'acceptable' size bloat (none!...) and think about other languages too</span></li></ul></div></div><div><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div></div><div><span style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: medium;"><br /></span></div><p>&nbsp;</p></div>
Bschineller