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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><p><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Minutes 12/6/2011</span></p><p><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Attendees<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:</span></p><ul><li><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Gary O’Neall<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Bill Schineller<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Kirsten Newcomer<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Kate Stewart<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Rana Rahal<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Ed Warnicke<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Brandon Robinson<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Peter Williams<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li></ul><p><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Agenda<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:</span></p><ul><li><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Ed’s composite package proposal<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li></ul><p><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Updates<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:</span></p><ul><li><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Git repos back online<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li></ul><p><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Composite Package Proposal<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:</span></p><ul><li><span style</del>=<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Ed walked through the proposal<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Discussion on the ACL – can be used to describe what is included or excluded – perhaps even what source files are used to produce a particular binary.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Discussion on the domain model – should we be modeling general copyrightable material or modeling software packaging?<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp; </del>Agree that we are not modeling the entire copyright domain.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp; </del>Mapping a subset of the copyright domain.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp; </del>The proposal is to model more of “copyrightable things” rather than just packages.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Do we need to have more detail on the relationship between elements?<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp; [</del>left open<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Do we have a separate file for signature or do we have an “envelope” with a signature?<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Should we separate out the concept of what is physically included/embedded from the relationship of analyzed components?<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp; </del>Should these be represented as separate graphs?<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Annotations approach compared to modifying a copy of an SPDX document.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp; </del>Annotations help solve the provenance problems.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp; </del>Annotation approach would be difficult for tools to recreate the new SPDX file representation. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[</del>left open<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">]</span></li><ul><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Example use cases – Different opinion on the licensing for the package, choice of a license for a package that offers license choices<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Alternative proposal – add an additional tag in an SPDX file to denote which SPDX file it is based on and what changes were made<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li></ul><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;"></del>Do we care about backwards compatibility?<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">&nbsp; </del>Agree to have a future discussion.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"></span></li></ul><p><span style="font-family</del>: <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Times New Roman; font-size</del>: <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">medium;">&nbsp;</span></p></del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color:black; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== Attendees =<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">=</ins></div></td></tr>
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</table>MartinMichlmayrhttps://wiki.spdx.org/index.php?title=Technical_Team/Minutes/2011-12-05&diff=1258&oldid=prevGoneall at 20:08, 6 December 20112011-12-06T20:08:08Z<p></p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div><p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Minutes 12/6/2011</span></p><p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Attendees:</span></p><ul><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Gary O’Neall</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Bill Schineller</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Kirsten Newcomer</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Kate Stewart</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Rana Rahal</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Ed Warnicke</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Brandon Robinson</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Peter Williams</span></li></ul><p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Agenda:</span></p><ul><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Ed’s composite package proposal</span></li></ul><p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Updates:</span></p><ul><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Git repos back online</span></li></ul><p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">&nbsp;</span></p><p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Composite Package Proposal:</span></p><ul><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Ed walked through the proposal</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Discussion on the ACL – can be used to describe what is included or excluded – perhaps even what source files are used to produce a particular binary.</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Discussion on the domain model – should we be modeling general copyrightable material or modeling software packaging?&nbsp; Agree that we are not modeling the entire copyright domain.&nbsp; Mapping a subset of the copyright domain.&nbsp; The proposal is to model more of “copyrightable things” rather than just packages.</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Do we need to have more detail on the relationship between elements?&nbsp; [left open]</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Do we have a separate file for signature or do we have an “envelope” with a signature?</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Should we separate out the concept of what is physically included/embedded from the relationship of analyzed components?&nbsp; Should these be represented as separate graphs?</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Annotations approach compared to modifying a copy of an SPDX document.&nbsp; Annotations help solve the provenance problems.&nbsp; Annotation approach would be difficult for tools to recreate the new SPDX file representation. [left open]</span></li><ul><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Example use cases – Different opinion on the licensing for the package, choice of a license for a package that offers license choices</span></li><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Alternative proposal – add an additional tag in an SPDX file to denote which SPDX file it is based on and what changes were made</span></li></ul><li><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">Do we care about backwards compatibility?&nbsp; Agree to have a future discussion.</span></li></ul><p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: medium;">&nbsp;</span></p></div>Goneall