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<p></p> <table class='diff diff-contentalign-left'> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <col class='diff-marker' /> <col class='diff-content' /> <tr style='vertical-align: top;'> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan='2' style="background-color: white; color:black; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:59, 17 October 2015</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 7:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 7:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* Gary &#160;</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>&#160;</td><td style="background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; 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<p>Created page with &quot;== Attendees == * Jilayne * Kris * Dennis * Phil * Alan * Gary * Brad == Agenda == 1) LinuxCon Europe update: * Bradley Kuhn did a great talk on complete corresponding sourc...&quot;</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>== Attendees ==<br /> * Jilayne<br /> * Kris<br /> * Dennis<br /> * Phil<br /> * Alan<br /> * Gary <br /> * Brad<br /> <br /> == Agenda ==<br /> 1) LinuxCon Europe update:<br /> * Bradley Kuhn did a great talk on complete corresponding source<br /> * FOSSology 3.0<br /> * Developer's Care About the License - <br /> * Supply Chain Mini-Summit - update from Kate: overview of SPDX and OpenChain. some work on OpenChain work, free-form talk and brainstorming in afternoon. Will probably organize another session focus on tooling in spring, so keep an eye out for that<br /> * * Debsources talk from Stefano<br /> * * Uday from UNO talked on Dosocs<br /> <br /> ADD LINKS<br /> <br /> 2) Improving templates for <br /> * we can always add more markup, but want to first consider if we should change the format of the markup<br /> * Kris recommended moving what is currently used (kind of custom for SPDX) to XML b/c of availabiilty of tools to parse it<br /> * what is use case of goal of markup?<br /> * *</div>

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