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		<title>Podence: Created page with &quot;* Attendance: 11 * Lead by Phil Odence * Minutes of Feb meeting approved    == Special Presentation- Mark Charlebois / Rashmi Chitrakar, Qualcomm ==  * Mark from corp R&amp;D, Ras...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;* Attendance: 11 * Lead by Phil Odence * Minutes of Feb meeting approved    == Special Presentation- Mark Charlebois / Rashmi Chitrakar, Qualcomm ==  * Mark from corp R&amp;amp;D, Ras...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Attendance: 11&lt;br /&gt;
* Lead by Phil Odence&lt;br /&gt;
* Minutes of Feb meeting approved &lt;br /&gt;
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== Special Presentation- Mark Charlebois / Rashmi Chitrakar, Qualcomm ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Mark from corp R&amp;amp;D, Rashmi from the open source group&lt;br /&gt;
* Mark works on Dronecode&lt;br /&gt;
** Goal is to build with Yocto&lt;br /&gt;
** Want to provide good license info&lt;br /&gt;
** At the outset Yocto build only supported SPDX 1.0 and uses FOSSology for scanning&lt;br /&gt;
*** Yocto is a distribution that comes with recipes for custom builds &lt;br /&gt;
** Motivation&lt;br /&gt;
*** reducing scan times was key&lt;br /&gt;
*** FOSSology was taking as much as 6 days&lt;br /&gt;
*** Introducing LiD to address&lt;br /&gt;
* (Deck is available)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yocto&lt;br /&gt;
** has a number of build stages&lt;br /&gt;
** current integration was inserted after patch stage to only scan what’s patched&lt;br /&gt;
** but that doesn’t allow for reusability&lt;br /&gt;
** So, the approach was to scan upstream sources and focus scan on only patches&lt;br /&gt;
** Uses Yocto archiver&lt;br /&gt;
* FOSSology integration&lt;br /&gt;
** Mark was not able to even get it going&lt;br /&gt;
** Old, did not seem well maintained&lt;br /&gt;
* New integration&lt;br /&gt;
** Implements approach to &lt;br /&gt;
** Leverage newer SPDX capabilities &lt;br /&gt;
*** Relationships between files&lt;br /&gt;
*** Usage info (e.g. dynamic library)&lt;br /&gt;
** Allows for parallelizing across machines&lt;br /&gt;
** Can flag discrepancies (e.g. two different licenses declared)&lt;br /&gt;
** Goal&lt;br /&gt;
*** create a federated commons of pre-scanned code&lt;br /&gt;
*** so, everyone’s work is cut by, say, 90% (as they only need to scan their customer 10%) &lt;br /&gt;
* LiD&lt;br /&gt;
** Main Features of Scanners&lt;br /&gt;
*** They have access to FOSSology tools (Nomos, Monk)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Evaluated using Qualcomm code for testing&lt;br /&gt;
*** Nomos was pretty good at detecting license language (94%)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Monk, only about 25%&lt;br /&gt;
*** Used SPDX license list as source for license matching&lt;br /&gt;
** Goal&lt;br /&gt;
*** Aiding in license compliance&lt;br /&gt;
*** Hope was to generate SPDX&lt;br /&gt;
* Main functions&lt;br /&gt;
** Scans source code to ID license language&lt;br /&gt;
** Natural Language Process “Bag of words” approach&lt;br /&gt;
** Jakarta index shows how well it matches&lt;br /&gt;
** Levenstein measures to determine where to start/end&lt;br /&gt;
** Output- color coded matches (and deviations)&lt;br /&gt;
** Matched about as well as Noms&lt;br /&gt;
** Accuracy&lt;br /&gt;
*** Right license&lt;br /&gt;
*** Right region&lt;br /&gt;
** Better than Nomos at extracting full text; Monk really fell short&lt;br /&gt;
** Can be tuned&lt;br /&gt;
*** Based on LiD Scores (1-perfect)&lt;br /&gt;
**** Scores of above .6 were pretty good, but user can adjust&lt;br /&gt;
*** Nomos, being REGEX based is very computationally expensive.&lt;br /&gt;
* Will be available on GitHub&lt;br /&gt;
** But available already&lt;br /&gt;
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*Q&amp;amp;A&lt;br /&gt;
** What’s going on with Debian?&lt;br /&gt;
** It’s being tested on Debian, not a lot of feedback yet&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tech Team Report - Kate ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* Spec&lt;br /&gt;
** Have been working on reference examples&lt;br /&gt;
*** Filling in how to do examples &lt;br /&gt;
** Spec being converted to docbooks for style&lt;br /&gt;
*** Mobile-friendly&lt;br /&gt;
** Getting the spec up on GitHub so changes can be tracked, pull requests, etc&lt;br /&gt;
*** Eventually we’ll move there from Bugzilla for issue tracking&lt;br /&gt;
** FacetoFace in Tahoe&lt;br /&gt;
*** Jilayne did a great presentation that is available as video, Kate’s as well&lt;br /&gt;
*** JSON format discussion&lt;br /&gt;
* Tools&lt;br /&gt;
** Talked through plans at Face to Face&lt;br /&gt;
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== Outreach Team Report - Jack ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Accepted for Google Summer of Code&lt;br /&gt;
** Starting to get interest&lt;br /&gt;
* Short meeting last week&lt;br /&gt;
** Talked about feedback from Matt’s project surveying companies&lt;br /&gt;
** Need to decide if we will do a survey&lt;br /&gt;
** Jack says we really need to look at the Ecosystem&lt;br /&gt;
*** Define user types and what to tell them they should do&lt;br /&gt;
*** Need to paint a picture of what success is with SPDX&lt;br /&gt;
*** Some feedback from site “I’m a developer, what do I do?”&lt;br /&gt;
* Considering whether we need someone on the outreach team who is more OSS community-focused&lt;br /&gt;
** Perhaps looking at “SPDX lite” (wrong word) sort of approach, and easy way to get started&lt;br /&gt;
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== Legal Team Report - Jilayne/Paul  ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Good meetings at Tahoe&lt;br /&gt;
** 2 hour working session &lt;br /&gt;
*** Action plan for XML conversion&lt;br /&gt;
*** How to completely connect the dots and organize upcoming task&lt;br /&gt;
* Today’s call will follow up&lt;br /&gt;
* Brad Edmondson developing deck and presenting to ABA group&lt;br /&gt;
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== Attendees ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*Mark Charlebois, Qualcomm&lt;br /&gt;
*Rashmi Chitrakar, Qualcomm&lt;br /&gt;
* Phil Odence, Black Duck&lt;br /&gt;
* Kate Stewart, Linux Foundation&lt;br /&gt;
* Philippe Ombrédanne- nexB&lt;br /&gt;
* Paul Madick, Dimension Data&lt;br /&gt;
* Jilayne Lovejoy, ARM&lt;br /&gt;
* Jack Manbeck, TI&lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Herzog- nexB&lt;br /&gt;
* Mark Gisi, Wind River &lt;br /&gt;
* Thomas Steenbergen, HERE&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:General|Minutes]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Minutes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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