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		<title>Podence: Created page with &quot;* Attendance: 14 * Lead by Phil Odence * Minutes of May meeting approved  == Special Guest - Dave Marr, Qualcomm ==  * SPDX is a critical piece of getting well and getting goo...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;* Attendance: 14 * Lead by Phil Odence * Minutes of May meeting approved  == Special Guest - Dave Marr, Qualcomm ==  * SPDX is a critical piece of getting well and getting goo...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;* Attendance: 14&lt;br /&gt;
* Lead by Phil Odence&lt;br /&gt;
* Minutes of May meeting approved&lt;br /&gt;
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== Special Guest - Dave Marr, Qualcomm ==&lt;br /&gt;
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* SPDX is a critical piece of getting well and getting good at managing open source&lt;br /&gt;
* Open source overall&lt;br /&gt;
** Requires cross functional participation&lt;br /&gt;
** Some very intellectual interesting aspects&lt;br /&gt;
** Management&lt;br /&gt;
*** really requires a lot of uninteresting, rote work&lt;br /&gt;
*** Necessary to get it right&lt;br /&gt;
** Opportunity for automation&lt;br /&gt;
*** Requires standard practices&lt;br /&gt;
**** Open Chain&lt;br /&gt;
**** SPDX &lt;br /&gt;
**** SIPOC model (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SIPOC)&lt;br /&gt;
*** Customer focus required&lt;br /&gt;
**** Focus on internal customers too, requires mindset shift&lt;br /&gt;
**** Delivering code with compliance problems is like delivering bad code&lt;br /&gt;
**** Qualcomm engineers all take Dave’s training&lt;br /&gt;
***** The more specific instructions the better&lt;br /&gt;
*** SPDX connection&lt;br /&gt;
**** Information must be in a factorable form&lt;br /&gt;
**** Standardization is key&lt;br /&gt;
*** Process required to yield the output&lt;br /&gt;
**** That’s the hard part&lt;br /&gt;
**** Can’t have drag on engineering processes&lt;br /&gt;
**** So need automation and “plumbing”&lt;br /&gt;
*** Direction&lt;br /&gt;
**** Aiming for seamlessness&lt;br /&gt;
**** Suppliers need to be brought into this&lt;br /&gt;
**** If everyone provides SPDX, there’s still the need to efficiently consume and manage through the dev process&lt;br /&gt;
**** Solution needs to handle version control and compilation&lt;br /&gt;
**** The dream is a way to move the SPDX files along with the code and to handle refactoring to the ultimately the SPDX files for products the ship are available and largely accurate. &lt;br /&gt;
*** How to get there?&lt;br /&gt;
**** Tricky to improve the plane while still flying&lt;br /&gt;
*** Does annotation in SPDX help?&lt;br /&gt;
**** So far they struggle with achieving behavioral change in engineering&lt;br /&gt;
**** Works best when product managers drive&lt;br /&gt;
**** Annotations are good for simple use case&lt;br /&gt;
*** Looking at hooks into version control systems?&lt;br /&gt;
**** Yes, and this might be the ultimate approach&lt;br /&gt;
**** At least part of the solution&lt;br /&gt;
**** One source of truth is required -- and as contained within the version control system&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Tech Team Report - Kate ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Spec&lt;br /&gt;
** 2.1 very close to getting pushed out&lt;br /&gt;
*** two appendices need a little work, but that’s it&lt;br /&gt;
*** Kate can provide link to review for everyone&lt;br /&gt;
*** Somewhat waiting for Gary’s return from vaca&lt;br /&gt;
** Live on the new website&lt;br /&gt;
* Tools&lt;br /&gt;
** Starting to update for 2.1&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Outreach Team Report - Jack ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Website&lt;br /&gt;
** Still working it through&lt;br /&gt;
** Lots to talk about in team call today&lt;br /&gt;
** Still a few functional issues, need to resolve with LF folks&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Legal Team Report - Paul ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Primary focus getting all the licenses into GitHub&lt;br /&gt;
*** for maintenance &lt;br /&gt;
*** and more future utility&lt;br /&gt;
** all license have been converted&lt;br /&gt;
*** going thru manually&lt;br /&gt;
* New licenses&lt;br /&gt;
** knocking them down as they come in&lt;br /&gt;
** little backlog at this point&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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== Cross Functional Topics - Phil ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Guest stars&lt;br /&gt;
** Sam Ellis, Dave Marr, one more in pipeline&lt;br /&gt;
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== Attendees ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Phil Odence, Black Duck&lt;br /&gt;
* Kate Stewart, Linux Foundation&lt;br /&gt;
* Jilayne Lovejoy, ARM&lt;br /&gt;
* Jack Manbeck, TI&lt;br /&gt;
* Scott Sterling, Palamida&lt;br /&gt;
* Paul Madick, Dimension Data&lt;br /&gt;
* Robin Gandhi, UNO&lt;br /&gt;
* Alexios Zavras, Intel&lt;br /&gt;
* Pierre LaPointe, nexB &lt;br /&gt;
* Michael Herzog- nexB&lt;br /&gt;
* Mike Dolan, Linux Foundation&lt;br /&gt;
* Matt Germonprez, UNO&lt;br /&gt;
* Yev Bronshteyn, Black Duck&lt;br /&gt;
* Matija Suklje, FSFE&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:General|Minutes]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Minutes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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